Episode 621 of Short Time features Kyle Klingman, a longtime radio and podcast host.

The co-host of On The Mat, Klingman is a content producer for SportEngine's Trackwrestling.com. Klingman's first foray into podcasting came in 2008-09 with Wrestling 411, but prior, he'd been the host of On The Mat when it was housed by the NWHOF's Dan Gable Museum.

Klingman talks about the structure of the show and how On The Mat has evolved over the years from a live radio show in Iowa to one of the top wrestling podcasts on the planet. From guest selection to relevance to synergy with cohost Andy Hamilton, Kyle talks about the show from its inception to its current status.

Recorded on September 30 for #InternationalPodcastDay